Welfare rolls are going way up across America – this is a disturbing trend.
The problem with welfare is that people get incredibly lazy, and they’d rather collect welfare than get out there and find a job.
If we ban welfare, they will be encouraged to get jobs.
Why don’t we do this? It’ll help the economy, too, by removing a drain on public services and making the workforce more competitive.
There are lots of jobs out there if you look.
Yes, It is what makes me vote Republican!
If there isn’t enough demand to create enough jobs, then they will just get hungry and angry….. and steal your stuff.
But go ahead and give it a whirl.
Where? And enough to employ every single person wanting a job? That’s never happened in the history of this modern economy.
Do you suggest we all just serve eachother burgers?
Ohhh wait.. I got a better one. We can all work for debt collection agencies and call eachother to harass eachother over unpaid medical bills.
YES
Are you serious???
All those folks who have lived on Welfare and Food Stamps their whole life will have to work and turn in their Cadillac Escalades for beatup second hand cars… Trailer trash baby making machines time to close them legs and work for a living…
yes, and no.
There are literally no jobs to be had honeyy
We should issue bridge loans w/ a lifetime maximum — charge a little interest if we’re to have the program pay for itself (you know, those self-sustaining programs that don’t require more taxpayer funds as the years roll on).
And the poster is right, there are plenty of jobs to be had — just have to lower your standards a little. Being spoiled is great when the gears are lubed…but makes it hard to transition to the harsh reality when things turn bad.
There’s no better motivator than an empty stomach…
It needs reform. Why is it though that the only people I have known to have been on welfare are all Republicans?
But then how could democrats ever hold protests during the week if they actually had to pay their own way?!
I don’t know that welfare rolls are “going way up”. Sounds like the typical Right wing BS. This country spends a tiny fraction of GDP assisting poor families. Most welfare recipients are CHILDREN. Should they get jobs?
There are jobs if you look? REALLY? I wonder why the unemployment rate continues to rise then…
Less than 10% of people on welfare use the system fraudulently.
Frankly, instead of denying basic aid to 27 million Veterans, 18 million disabled people who cannot work, 16 million seniors who never had access to retirement and pensions, 8 million children who shouldn’t starve to death because of their parents’ actions, and 3 million children who don’t have parents or family at all, I would say that you would be better off reporting people who defraud the system….instead of significantly harming the millions of people in legitimate need.
I am SICK of people who ‘know someone/several people who are stealing from the government’….of people who repeatedly whine and moan about a system that costs 1/8th the amount of money that we spend on corporate welfare in this country.
NO ONE supports lazy people who refuse to work. REPORT THEM, and stop trying to claim that they, in any way, represent more than a fraction of the people on social welfare.
welfare shouldn’t be abolished people fall on hard times and need help and helping is what being a american in about but welfare needs to be regulated.
i believe welfare should be limited to one year, after the year if you don’t have a job you are deciding not to have a job and should be cut off.
to many people today are playing the system and i cant wait for the day when welfare finally drys up and they are left on their lazy asses because they were sucking on the tit of america for to long.
one year that’s it then i could care less if you starve to death.
What jobs?
If only it were that simplistic.
welfare in its essance is a good idea. it was made to help people make ends meet when their pay checks arent enough, or when theyre let go from their job and having problems finding a new one. this is why many states require that welfare recipiants prove that theyre either actively searching for a job, or currently employed. The part that sheds a bad light on it is those that get on welfare, then use that as their sole sorce of income, stop looking for a job, and then use welfare money for drug perchases and the like.
Yeah, that is an incredibly intelligent and practical idea to try out in the middle of the deepest recession since the Great Depression and amid an almost complete collapse of the nation’s financial system. Throwing people off welfare and telling them to get jobs when unemployment is spiking is eminently reasonable. I am surprised that not even the Republican Party has called for this move!
Some people out there genuinely need welfare and food stamps. A lot of people dont. The system needs a total re-working. They need to cancel welfare and foodstamps for everyone for a year. Force them to make it on their own. Then open it up again to people honestly in need. And when people get on it, they need to set firm dates for how long they can be on it, and ENFORCE them. They also need to look at people who are repeat users, and after a certain point, deny them. People actually have kids just for an extra check. Its sad. Those people should be castrated.
People say there are no jobs, but I always see for hire signs up at local fast food places and grocery stores. My grocery store is actually having a hard time finding anyone to hire. Nobody wants to lower themselves to work lower class jobs. Welfare pays more than that job would and they dont want to demean themselves, so they just keep sucking america dry.
When and if welfare is abandoned the illegal immigration traffic would come to a halt.
That is if the ones on welfare now don’t think they are to good to work at the jobs illegals are proud to have so they can feed their family.
Those who have been on it for five generation are pretty spoiled. It would be hard for them to understand they will have to work for a living.
Of course this would produce MAJOR riots in the cities like it has never been seen before.
Stores looted, buildings burned, police shoot, innocent by standers killed, cars turned over set on fire and in the end the Welfare program would be restored when Rev Jackson, Wright and Farrakhan showed up singing their national anthem “Racial Discrimination”.
-And WHERE are all these “jobs” you are telling people to go out & get ??? Give Us your # – a LOT of Us would like to Know !!!
If you were going to do it, you’d want to do it when the economy was thriving so as few people were dependent on the program as possible.
Lets start with the subsidized housing that comes from allowing a tax deduction for mortgage interest. Those parasites should pay for their own home without having the taxpayers pay part of it. Then do away with those who eat food inspected by FDA. Let’s all do our own inspections.
Well it certainly does need tighter restrictions. I am for it for people who are disabled and the elderly..and those who lost their jobs should be able to get temporary help. No able bodied person should be able to make a life out of it though.
so u would rather see sick/hungry children the jobs are leaving /closing as quick as you can blink your eye just because you are probably working and in good financially situation does not mean everyone is like you who wants welfare if they could help themselves, too much red tape just trying to get it
Yes, Americans have become so complaisant about their living situations that they do not want to work if it doesn’t suit their needs, if we started not dropping it completely but supplementing income that they are making through other jobs.
Yes there are plenty of jobs out there we just have to swallow our pride and accept a lower paying job.
welfare is not a great way to live, people do not just want to be on welfare, sure maybe some do, but some people want to rob banks… so… you get crazy people of all types….
if you ban welfare, it is children who will suffer…
8.1% of the people in this country are unemployed and collecting unemployment insurance – not welfare. A lot more than that are unemployed, as this number is underestimated. In any case, there are a lot more people who are unemployed now than when Bush took office. Unless you only listen to Fox “News”, you’d be hearing of massive layoffs on an almost daily basis. These people are being laid off through no fault of their own, many are very well educated, and it is very difficult for anyone to find a job.
So how do you expect these people on welfare to get jobs in this economy? With all of the unemployed people, the workplace is very competitive already, and thousands of people are competing for low wage menial jobs. You are a very short-sighted right-wing shill who probably gets all his ideas from drug addict Rush Limbaugh. Stop worrying about welfare and start seeing what you can do to support President Obama’s efforts to fix the economy that Bush destroyed.
What’s amazing to me that some people are content to live so far below the poverty line.
What’s wrong with them?
Are they not watching enough TV?
The point of welfare is to create individuals who become depenend on government assistance. Some people do benefit from the program, but the percentage of people who take advantage of the system overrides the responsible citizen..therefore creating a dependency…a dependency that needs to be removed from society.
In this country we were granted the right to live as sovereign individuals…individuals who who accept responsibility for our actions, find our own solutions to the problems we create, and take care of ourselves. This government was never intended to be a babysitter. In fact, the Constitution was spicifically written to keep the government out of our lives.
YES THE MONEY WE WOULD SAVE WOULD BE OUTSTANDING, through evolution survival of the fittest we would weed out the weak in the gene pool, and become the nation the FOUNDING FATHERS wanted us to be, not some pathetic welfare dependent nation! In the great depression men fought very hard to get jobs, America doesn’t have that same fight anymore!
No. We should ban inheritances and tell heiresses to get jobs.
We could do it this way have the social Program but make these people work for it. Work for the city cleaning streets vacant lots ETC. That way we get some return and the people are more likely going to find better employment that pays more if they have to work anyway.
welfare is needed but only for thoses that truely need it….
ex a wifes husband needs a surgery and wont be able to work for 3 months. i dont mind if they get some assistance from the govt.
the ones who dont deserve money are the ones not trying to better themselves
First Of All Welfare does NOT Exist -each state may or may not have a small program .
And If You know where there are Jobs aplenty then I am sure there are millions of people here in the USA who would LOVE to talk with You.
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Washington D.C. welfare caseworker Angela Perkins
Washington, D.C. welfare caseworker Angela Perkins talks to Cynthia Harris. (Juana Arias, Washington Post)
Welfare’s Changing Face
By Dan Froomkin
Washingtonpost.com Staff
Updated July 23, 1998
Welfare as we knew it no longer exists.
The 61-year American tradition of guaranteeing cash assistance to the poor came to an end with the signing of legislation in August 1996.
Under the old system, founded during the Great Depression, the federal government provided fairly uniform benefits to the nation’s poor – mostly mothers and children – without regard to the details of their personal circumstances, and with no time limit.
But over time, the system became increasingly unpopular. Political opinion turned against the idea of anyone getting rewarded for being idle. Social critics said welfare was responsible for a permanent underclass of people living off government checks because the incentives to go to work were so weak.
Now, a federal system that was once fairly consistent has been turned over to the states, where programs are diverging widely. And it is far from clear whether the poor will be better or worse off.
Most of the adults receiving assistance DO have jobs. Some have more than one. It’s just that working 40+ hours making minimum wage is NOT enough to afford to support even a very small family. In some areas, you can’t even afford a one bedroom apartment to live in, let alone food and other expenses. There are regulations in place that require a welfare recipient to find full time employment in order to continue their benefits unless they have a documented disability that prevents them from doing so.
Perhaps you haven’t noticed… there are very few jobs for the masses to need them. Only when jobs outnumber the people willing to work will you have a point. Until then, you don’t.
Some cannot work because of physical or mental(or both) disabilities; what do you propose they do?
we should at least start by putting tight regulations on welfare. what pisses me off is with millions out of work my parents who went from 100k a year to nothing tried to get welfare just to be able to eat and they refused to respond but when a minority needs it they have no problems getting for generation after generation. something is wrong. not just with welfare but with getting a job that even pas the bills. create more jobs and we wouldnt need it. for those who live off of it for years on end should be stripped of it. for those who really need it make a program thatll help them get a career and if they dont comply then you starve period. this laziness is out of control and ruins it for those that really need it. it would be to hard to get rid of it now but put more incentives to get educated and get a job and put tighter legislation on it.
There are many public service jobs and volunteer work the welfare people can do until they find a real job. America`s freeways are littered with trash, that`s one example that could be taken care of among others.
I don’t know where you live, but no… There aren’t lots of jobs out there. In Miami, a thousand people applied for only 35 firefighter positions. Are there people that abuse welfare? Absolutely. People also crank call 911 but I don’t see anyone calling for the abolition of the 911 system. Welfare, if used as intended, should be used as a hand up, not a hand out. Right now, I believe that New York State has only a 2 year lifetime allowance for welfare and it is better controlled than in the past.
I don’t think that the average person would ever want to be on welfare. To think otherwise is ignorant. It’s like saying that one prefers to be in jail because they get free rent and free food.
Again, I don’t advocate laziness and anyone caught abusing welfare should absolutely be thrown in jail and all assets they own should be seized and sold to repay the welfare funds. But to conclude that welfare is the causes laziness is pretty silly.
I understand,because some people abuse the safety net.However some people need the help and some people are not well,mentally.emotionally ,physically. If you were one of those people you would see it is humane to help them.
Democracy is for the people by the people,but Capitalism is a branch of belief and not the true foundation of a free world.Capitilism is look after your own goodies and too bad for the next guy. Welfare circulates the economy and is not a direct burden. People who hoard the money,as capitilist do and send it overseas is a burden. People also in this economic crisis ,retired & such who lost everything in the market in some cases are on welfare and this is a real safety net. We really need to help each other. Thats my view.
Yep we should ban welfare. But if we do we are going to have to build more jails. Welfare keeps a lot of people from robbing and looting the rest of us.
Yes and No. For the lazy people that just live off welfare their entire lives and are perfectly capable of working……then yes. But for the people that can no longer work, or are layed off…then no. In my city there are NO jobs. I was layed off about a month ago( I am a waitress, it is bad when a waitress gets layed off!)I have looked put in 40 applications even gone to temp agencies and the temp agency even said there are no jobs.So for some people that take advantage of the system then certainly they need to change the sytem a bit. But to abolish it entirely? No I dont agree.
Well I think there is a balance between having money available for people in need, and removing accountability. I think right now we are little too far toward the ‘removing accountability’ side. I have 3 family members who take advantage of the system. it’s way too easy to do. However I think that completely abolishing it would be inhumane. But we WILL have to do something about it in the not-so-distant future.
There are 12 million people in the US who want to work and can;t get a job. and more than half a million more lose their jobs every month, There are jobs but each one has many applicant and only one gets hired. You can not really be as clueless as you sound.
I vote yes.
bash~ less than 10% based on what? Why do you think that’s the number? I’ll bet it’s far more than that.
I actually live below the poverty level as defined by the government yet I have never taken welfare. I actually live a fairly comfortable lifestyle. I don’t waist money and I do things to keep costs down, like sealing the windows, and getting roommates. Fixing stuff. It’s actually not that hard.
Bon billet. Le billet est complémentaire au miens.
wow to me alot of your comments are really ignorant sometimes things happen to people you don’t know their personal lives. some people who had jobs have no choice but to get on aid. Yes there may be jobs out there but its a very competitive market right now. Not all people get lazy or dependent on the system. I have been working all my life even under the table but the circumstances that I’m in I have to rely on the system for now doesn’t mean that I’m not looking for a job. And to me I figure they been taking money out of my checks for years so it’s kind of a pay back. I’m not proud to be on aid but I’m also not embarrassed. People have to live!